Internet Paganism is real Paganism

A great response from Morag to John Halstead’s claim that “Internet paganism is not paganism”:

That is to say, writing about paganism on the web isn’t really religion like how, you know, pouring libations or saying prayers or whatever it is that people do offline is religion. …

Do you want an actual quote as to what he considers real paganism? Here is one, verbatim:

“Connecting with the land and it’s other-than-human inhabitants, celebrating the Wheel of the Year, worshiping gods, venerating ancestors, meditating, praying at your shrine, pouring libations, making offerings: these kinds of things are Paganism.”

Which, you know, completely erases the existence of pagans who, in their offline lives, do things that are NOT THESE THINGS — and thus, we can assume, they are not really ‘doing paganism’. …

Because guess what? For me, internet paganism IS PAGANISM. This writing I do on this blog? It’s mostly a religious act for me. (Maybe not when I’m ranting like this,*** but most of the time? Yeah. It’s an act of devotion.)

The online shrines that I keep for the gods, the postings I put there, the reblogs? Devotional activity.

My Pinterest boards of devotional imagery? You guessed it — devotional activity!

The 8tracks playlists that I listen to, that I have collected in a “Songs for the Gods” collection? Yes, devotional activity.

The “Songs of the Gods” playlist I have on my Youtube? Devotional.

The weekly Otherfaith online get-togethers, or the conversations we have — all online — throughout the week? Devotional. Related to the Four/Four. Related to our faith, that we’re building, and a way for members of the faith to connect with each other.

Making Kiva loans? Devotional.

Reading certain pieces from certain blogs? Devotional.

Contributing to Deily? Devotional.

All these things and a shitload more, things I do exclusively or mostly online — devotional. Devotional. DEVOTIONAL.

And I know it’s the same for other pagans I know. I know I’m not the only one who lives their religious life partly online.

Who the fuck does Halstead think he is saying that Pagans have to “get their hands dirty” or that we can’t worship the Gods behind a keyboard and a computer screen?  This blog is my offering to the Gods.  This is my shrine to them.  Big deal, so you are tree hugging, dirt worshipping hippie Pagan.  So what?!  I worship real Gods.  Who do you think made the earth that you worship so sanctimoniously?  My Gods did, asshole.

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Polytheists and Blacks have something in common.

From Galina Krasskova:

I’ve noticed that one of the first accusations leveled against polytheists when they call out Pagan privilege, protest attacks on their traditions, challenge disrespectful attitudes, impiety, or micro-aggressions is that we’re “mean.”

Without taking anything away from the unique struggles they go through, in many ways this dynamic is comparable to the situation of Black activists who are told that they’re too angry and need to “get over” things like violence, poverty, injustice, and systemic oppression because talking openly about such things makes Whites uncomfortable. If people agitating for recognition and autonomy bother you maybe it’s time to start considering why and whether you’re actually part of the problem.

And polytheism is, fundamentally, a human rights movement – something we should never forget, since our enemies sure haven’t. Around the world we can watch a precise, ruthless and uncompromising war being carried out against adherents of polytheist and indigenous traditions.

https://krasskova.wordpress.com/2015/08/07/why-are-polytheists-so-mean-or-the-effects-of-the-ongoing-battle-against-privilege-and-pollution/

I love Ms. Krasskova!  She is like the Martin Luther King, Jr. of polytheism!

“If evil though knowest, then proclaim it to all as evil, and make no friendship with foes.” — Havamal

Atheist “Pagans” have no spiritual substance.

From Galina Krasskova:

the subject of atheist “Pagans” came up and again we were informed that they were so much nicer and ‘live and let live” than polytheists (of course they are, they have no religious integrity, no tradition to protect, no Gods to actually venerate. It’s rather like someone who maintains a steady diet of candy: just because they’re sweeter doesn’t mean it’s good for you. A steady diet of sugar will do nothing but make one ultimately sick just like a steady diet of pollution and impiety will make one spiritually sick).***

***I have no issue with atheists when they stay in their own sandbox. But atheist “pagans”? Oxymoronic in the extreme.

https://krasskova.wordpress.com/2015/08/07/why-are-polytheists-so-mean-or-the-effects-of-the-ongoing-battle-against-privilege-and-pollution/

This is a great analogy.  People need to eat their fucking vegetables.  The vegetables are the gods.  Or else they are going to die of spiritual diabetes.

“If evil though knowest, then proclaim it to all as evil, and make no friendship with foes.” — Havamal