In case you didn’t get it the first time: No gods = no holiness.

From Sarenth Odinsson:

If you have no theological framework then there is no theology to explain what is or is not holy. If you have no theological framework to discern what holiness is, its qualities and characteristics, then you have no concept of holiness to draw upon. Atheism’s main characteristics are that there are no Gods, and most of the atheist lines in regards to religious thought and phenomena directly state that there is no such thing as a God, Goddess, Supreme Being, etc. Most, though certainly not all forms of atheism, reject religious cosmology.  …

You can say all you like that you believe that things are sacred or holy, but those words carry absolutely no theological or philosophical weight when you say them because you don’t actually believe in the Beings nor the cosmologies that imbue them with that weight to begin with. …

I was pointing out what I had thought was patently obvious. I find it odd that Halstead is having such an emotional response when he has flat-out stated he does not believe in Gods. It would follow that there is no existent concept of holiness, as there is no theology in which holiness may take any kind of root. …

It is not surprising to me that he misses this point, as Halstead has no conception of holiness himself …

He says he regards these things as sacred, but without any of these things being involved with, dedicated to, devoted to, or consecrated to Gods, Ancestors, or vaettir, what are these words worth? …

Indeed, how can Halstead claim to be religious whatsoever when he denies any of the requisite things for which religion itself functions …?

In case you didn’t get it the first time, folks.  If you don’t believe in gods, then nothing is sacred to you.  Without the gods, nothing is sacred.  Not the earth.  Not human life.  Nothing.  All holiness begins with the gods.  No gods = no holy.

“If evil though knowest, then proclaim it to all as evil, and make no friendship with foes.” — Havamal

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